01. Back to Wikipedia India Pages

02. A slogan in the talk page

03. An unreal map

04. The genius Indians and the ‘bloody’ Indians

05. Wealth creation by a fraud

06. THE EXPLANATION THAT I GAVE

Back to Wikipedia India Pages

Now coming back to the Wikipedia India pages, there are a lot of other discrepancies. These discrepancies are okay from an Indian point of view. However from an international perspective, they are quite mischievous. For, they amount to a hijacking of the credibility of Wikipedia by some vested interests in India, who want to showcase a very much doctored history that would suit their long-term intentions of fooling the major peoples of India. In fact, Wikipedia India Pages does look like a website governed run by the Indian government, Indian politicians and Indian academicians, all with concurrent aims.

A slogan in the talk page

I did find a very obvious slogan-like writing on the top of this Talk Page. SLOGAN:

NOW, LETS SEE AROUND US. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THOSE INDIANS TODAY? ARE WE CREATING THE YOUNGER GENERATION INTO A BETTER PERSON? ARE WE CREATING AN ALBERT EINSTEIN AMONG US OR CAN WE SEE AT LEAST A MAHATMA GANDHI TODAY? THE ANSWER IS NO. WHY? WE WERE THE ONE FOUNDED THE LARGEST PART IN MATHEMATICS. WE WERE THE ONE WHOM LIVED WITH SUCH AN OBEDIENT, LOVING AND RESPECTING CHARACTER. BUT. IN TODAYS WORLD, ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF US CAN BE SAID CLEVER IN MATHEMATICS OR CAN BE SAID OBEDIENT, NICE AND A VERY GOOD CHARACTER. WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR IMPORTANT VEDA WHICH SHOULD BE OUR GUIDELINE FOR OUR LIVES? HOW MANY PARENTS SEND THEIR CHILD TO TAMIL SCHOOLS AOR CULTURAL CLASSES? WE ARE LACKING BEHIND. WE ARE NOT BORNED TO BE RULED BY OTHERS. WE HAVE TALENTS THAT WE MIGHT NOT KNOW. WE CAN RAISE OUR RELIGION TO ACHIEVE A HIGHER LEVEL. WE MUST BE PROUD TO SPEAK IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE.

It is quite funny. Currently in that page that has been archived, I cannot find the slogan. Wikipedia Talk Pages are not meant for writing slogans. Any sensible person would come forth to correct it. The fact that no one had done so was disconcerting, yet understandable. If anyone does it, then he becomes the target of all kinds of malicious words and attack by third rate guys. However, I did write the following words:

I cannot understand what this quote above is doing in Wikipedia. As to the tall claims, why should one create a Gandhi? And if at all one need to create a Gandhi, the technique is to use the Media like he did and have followers who would put that person’s name into textbooks.

As to Einstein, well, he is a scientist who came out with one idea. So many other scientists have come out with equally wonderful discoveries.

As to the We part, who is this We around here who discovered Mathematics? Some great personages in history discovered so many things in Mathematics. How can one connect their bloodline to the people currently living in the land currently called India? {Just calculate, everyone is connected 20 lakh bloodlines just 20 generations back}

As to Vedas, they are great. But what is their connection to the present day inhabitants of this land? I am yet to see a native here who has even seen a Vedic text let alone read one. Such a claim to Vedic heritage is like an Egyptian claiming hereditary links to the knowledge and people who made the Pyramids and knew the art of Mummifying.

And why should one be proud of languages that are feudal to the core and differentiate between people on the basis of stature, financial acumen and social position?

Mind you this is an Encyclopaedia for International usage, not for propagating narrow parochial bigotry

This was also one of the items that made me a target for admonishing. Admonishing is okay, but to be admonished by menial class individuals, who have money, is not condonable. A very creepy repulsiveness tingles on the skin.

An unreal map

There was another item. It was on the issue of the realistic map of India. Every sensible man knows that the map of India allowed for the people of India to see is a very doctored one. If the map is true, then Afghanistan is a direct neighbour of India. However there is no border that India shares with Afghanistan. Then there is the issue of Azad Kashmir. It is a state in Pakistan with its own Prime Minister. If the Indian map is true, then this state is not in this world. Well, this raises the question of who is trying to fool the people here and for what purpose.

It has been made a statutory crime to depict a map of India showing the real borders. What kind of nonsense is this? Surely the persons behind this fooling have to be taken to task. However, the problem here is that the Act has been passed by the Indian Parliament. And the fact remains that most of the Indian parliament members cannot understand what they have passed if given to them in English.

In a Maharashtra state government handbook, published some years ago, I did see a very dire warning. Any private individuals using the information for any other publication will be viewed sternly. What kind of talk was that? That too, to the citizens here, by their statutory servants!

I have seen this text in an official handbook published by the Maharashtra government. Is the writing and the stern warning legal?

Wikipedia has this correct map of India.

However, presumably due to pressure from the Indian lobby, it doesn’t appear on many relevant pages. However, before that there had been an event when the Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wale came to India to for Wiki conference in November 2011. There was a demand to arrest him as per the tenets of the Act for depicting the original map. Now the question is if each and every nation starts seeking the arrest of the Wikipedia founder for items that do not correspond to their national idiotism, then what is the dependability of Wikipedia as an impartial encyclopaedia. Well, the idea of allowing everyone and anyone to edit the information content is good. However, the understanding that everyone and anyone are of calibre enough to do the work within the parameters of impartiality is questionable.

It is noteworthy that even the very article on Wikipedia was removed, as per ‘majority’ opinion.

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People from feudal language nations do not have the content of impartiality in their mind. Every social logic is guided by the hierarchical string on which they belong. I have been in places which are known as (communist) party villages. People in these places can think only in a particular manner, that is in sync with the party ideas and leadership. But then no one would admit that they are not free. They feel that they are free, and would claim that they have all mentionable freedoms.

However, the moment they see a person of English nativity, they understand that their freedom is only to reverberate the social regimentation with joy and delight. However, they cannot usually conceive of an outside world. Like a person living in a 2-dimensional world may not be able to imagine 3-dimensional space.

I had the most curious description of my attempts at correcting the contorted writings as an enmity for India. It is a very strange situation. For, is there anything anti-people in mentioning that there are these defects in ‘Indian’ language and culture, which are derogative to the local people? There are so many political movements, into which crores of rupees (millions of dollars) have been put in, in the name of stopping corruption in India. Does anyone say that they are anti-people? Can ideas be acceptable only if the promoters are ready to buy the media with money and gifts?

The genius Indians and the ‘bloody’ Indians

Well, this does bring us to the question of what is being pro-Indian? And who is an Indian? There are different types of Indians, depending on the qualities that one takes for selection. However, on a general scale, one can say that there are two clearly remarkable Indians. Both opposite to each other. One the Genius Indians and the other the ‘Bloody’ Indians!

The Genius Indians include the government employees, their dependent children, the Indians in foreign nations who become instant millionaires on the swindle called currency exchange rate difference, the rich land owners, the other rich, the teaching class etc. They live on the higher indicant word codes of the feudal languages. They have markedly ennobled looks and look quite divine and fabulous. They cajole the other ‘Bloody Indians’ to follow Gandhi while they themselves get ready to escape to English nations.

The other Indians are the ‘Bloody Indians’, who the Genius Indians view with very obvious disdain. They have no wealth, no foreign connection, have to be quite obsequious to the government officials, are easily manipulated by the political parties, heartily believe that Gandhi was their saviour, and feel that their plight cannot be improved and fully accept the theory that learning English is bad for them and their children.

When the Genius Indians speak about the ‘Bloody Indians’, they use lower indicant words, and use such words as Avan or equivalent words with perfect right. They manipulate them and try to reach out to get their women who these Genius Indians feel have to be saved from their own low-class husbands. They, including the females of this group, move around talking about the miserable life of the wives of the Bloody Indians. They cajole the wives to speak against their husbands, and to revolt against them. They also tell them that that remaining chaste and faithful to their husbands is a very foolish idea.

For their ‘Bloody’ Indian husbands are not worthy of such loyalty. However, they never mention that it is they themselves who are making these husbands worthless by use of lower indicant words. They go around teaching the wives of the poorer sections that they have to liberate themselves from the clutches of their husband and serve the Genius Indians. However there is no mention that the wives of the Genius Indians should be made to serve ‘Bloody’ Indian husbands.

It is this ‘Bloody Indians’ that are being fooled by the Genius Indian. It is actually the ‘bloody’ Indians that supported the East India Company as it went about destroying Genius ‘Indians’ of those times. However, these fooled people in the present circumstances do not understand that their very seeming benefactors of present day India are really their suppressors.

In the last 20 years of my observation, the persons who had gathered money in the public services have all become great business leader and many of them even had stakes in educational institutions including Medicine and Engineering. Most of them have sent their children to UK, US and Australia. So telling anyone to be not corrupt is only for the bird-brained. If anyone believes such words, they are as silly as Gandhi’s followers, who revered him as he went on frolicking with girls in his ashram till his very end.

See this comment and counter comment on a Website: Silicon India

COMMENT AND COUNTER COMMENT ON THE SITE

1. As to why the Bangalorean’s pay bribe is another side of the Indian story. My own sister who earns a fabulous salary as a professor in a National elite engineering college thinks it smart to pay bribes. Otherwise, she will be forced to stand in a queue with the ‘bloody’ Indians, who she sincerely feels are untouchable dirt. She claims to be very efficient, for when she makes a phone call, various agents come bowing before her calling her ‘Madam’. She gets her papers at the RTO office, Passport office, and many other Indian offices much faster than a ‘bloody’ Indian can get it.

As to the ‘Madam’ part, it was my understanding that ‘Madam’ as a suffix to a name was generally used to denote brothel matrons. Using this as a term of respect really displays the quality of the ‘respectable’ persons in India.

Posted by: Ved from Victoria Institutions - 10 Dec, 2009

2. You, Raved and your Sister who works in a national elite Engineering College are more dangerous than those terrorists who plan to destroy our nation.

And pls refrain from using words like ‘bloody Indians’ in a public blog... such a person like you don’t have any right to comment. First learn to be a human and respect others like how you would like to be respected.

John Replied to: Ved from Victoria Institutions - 16 Dec, 2009

3. I think you have not understood the quotation mark. Possibly due to your lack of understanding what was meant between the lines. Currently for most government babus in this nation, all the people here are ‘bloody’ and fools. Otherwise how does one explain the huge salary for the government babus, commutation of pension, 13 months salary a year, all the respectful words for them, and the low grade words for the common man here. I think you belong to the government babu, and must be enjoying the tremendous ‘freedom’ of this nation.

See the treatment a commoner gets in any govt office, including the police station, and compare with how the officialdom treats the bureaucrats. If you know what I am talking about, you will either agree with me, or at least shut up.

Ved from Victoria Institutions Replied to: John - 10 Dec, 2010

To put it mildly, all that the weaker sections of the Indian people require to raise themselves up from their current state of lowliness is an occasion and opportunity to learn pristine English. Now the question of being pro-Indian comes up. Will my illuminating these aspects make me pro-Indian or anti-Indian? Well, it depends on who is doing the evaluation. Naturally the majority of the lower classes do not have access to computer use and English literacy. How then would they be able to understand my point?

I wrote this much specifically due to one reason. One of the persons on Wikipedia wrote to the administrators there that my account should be barred. One of the funny reasons mentioned was that I did have an antipathy for ‘India’. If anyone really feels that I am anti-Indian, well I am anti-Indian to the extent mentioned in two files.

1. FENCE EATING the CROPS! A treatise on the bureaucratic loot & swindle of India

2. Writ Petition against Compulsory Malayalam Study: An argument against teaching feudal languages

Now what is that I had written in the LTTE page:

Anyone can see in retrospect that it was not LTTE that was the terrorists. For, they only attacked strategic locations, including persons in such positions. It was the Sri Lankan side that always went for mass killing and mass molestation. LTTE does not have any record of attacking civilians other than in rare stray incidences. Sri Lankan army literally surrounded a huge landmass where people were living peacefully as a separate nation, and went in for dense firing and carpet bombing. People were living there in a very secure manner. Sri Lanka has had no right to enforce its own sovereignty over people who do not want it. For sovereignty is connected to right to self-determinism.

I objected to the use of the adjective of Terrorist organisation for the LTTE. For, I found it quite strange that the persons of actual satanic dispositions have been given the accolades. This idea would be very clear if one is know that the Tamil Tigers could also have started a mass massacre of Sri Lankan civilians. Instead their stance was only defensive. Only pro-independence, and not invasion or occupation of other people’s homeland.

Above video:

The communication is in English. Tamil personal name are not comprehensible to the interrogator. Well, these things itself show that Sri Lankan army has invaded another nation. Still, questioning in English is better. For otherwise, words like Nee, Eda etc. would come in.

At 3:50, the interrogator is asking: Where is your leader's daughter? Well, that is the question that should still be asked. Where is she, and why were they so interested in her? What did they do to her?

The question that remains in my mind is what was Obama doing when this gross injustice was going on? What would Obama have done if his own daughter gets in the hands of some Sri Lankan soldiers?

What about Great Britain? How was British help compromised? Who are the villains who have infiltrated British policymaking?

A silly Wikipedia writer has concerns when I mention that the word 'terrorist' should not be used, just to support any side. He wants to have me blocked.

I did get many blocks online when I spoke against the savagery on a people who spoke for detachment from savages. However, on Wikipedia I did not speak for LTTE, but only put in a refrain that Wikipedia should not take a partial stance.

See this block that came on my comment recently on Times of India:

Wealth creation by a fraud

Before moving from this section, I need to put in a brief mention about the money that the foreign earning persons are bringing to India. A local Indian works and gets Rs. 8000 per month. A foreign earning Indian sends 1000 or 2000 of that local currency denomination there. Here that becomes 20000 40000, 50000 or even 100000 Indian rupees. What is happening? The local Indian is literally get erased. Well then what about the economic development that is caused by this inflow of wealth? The truth is that the same thing can be achieved by doing a similar thing within India.

Give 2000 rupee tokens to two different sections of people. One small group and the other a big group.

After this done, make a statutory Act that the token given to the smaller group would have a value 50 times that of the token given to the bigger group. Well, a lot of economic activity will take place. For, a huge number of people would become impoverished and the smaller group would get a lot economic slaves. Along with this add the terribly suppressing feudal language codes. Actually this is the economic strength that built an immense number of ancient structures in ancient ‘India’. For example, the Taj Mahal. It was built on the suppression of a large number of native populations.

However, the Indian government should not be machinery to work out such a heinous deed that fools the major people who live inside India. It should have super-taxed the foreign employed. So that they do not become economic moguls inside India. If they do not want to bring the money to India, let them keep it elsewhere where it is dirt cheap. If they want to bring it to India to make it expand, well that expansion should be a highly controlled expansion. Not one that would gobble up the people who live locally.

SEE THIS POST of mine in Wikipedia, which was promptly deleted by the Indian-official class lobby:

QUOTE from Main Article on Kerala: ‘Another thing that needs mention is the oft quoted: {Kerala’s Human Development Index rating is the highest in India. This apparently paradoxical “Kerala phenomenon” or “Kerala model of development” of very high human development and not much high economic development results from the strong service sector}’

THE EXPLANATION THAT I GAVE: This is not really an unexplainable economic phenomenon; and the explanation given is not correct. It is based on a fantastic duping of the people of this nation. That is, a foreign employed person’s earning is allowed to expand by a fraud known as currency exchange rate devaluation. What it really means is that the native-employed person is not protected from the devaluation of currency that is known to be doctored to suit the interests of the foreign-employed and the exporters.

For example, a person is earning Rs. 1000/-inside Kerala. It remains 1000 only, while a foreign employed person will find his 1000 denomination expanding from 17 to 100 times. This huge fraud has literally made the people of many states in India with no foreign connections literally destitute and economic slaves.